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welcome to the skeptic zone the podcast

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from Australia for science and reason

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yes it's the skeptic zone podcast

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episode number 550 good grief for the

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fifth of May 2019 Richard Saunders here

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with you from Sydney Australia what a

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big day we had yesterday folks the

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Australian skeptics we had our flu

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vaccination day here in Sydney and it

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was a it was quite a success I certainly

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got my flu vaccination lots of people

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rolled up to get their flu vaccination a

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report coming up on next week's show

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because it just happened and I need time

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to edit all that together and then after

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all that in the evening I went to

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Maenads Love Shack number two in glebe

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at the red bar and what a fun night that

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was in fact that was such a success

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that's going to be a Love Shack number

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three and you really haven't lived until

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you've seen Maynard in action as a DJ

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but what's coming up on this week's show

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this week's show we have Jessica singer

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from the Australian skeptics talking

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about a visit to skeptics in the pub in

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London and the the segment does give

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general advice and insights about

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running as skeptics in the pub I've been

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to quite a few skeptics in the pub

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around the world skeptics in the pubs

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skeptic in the pubs around the world

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it's a great opportunity to get together

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in a very informal way to chat about

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skepticism and science advice tips and

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insights about running skeptics in the

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pub coming up on this week's show and we

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have M SSX what is M SSX the Merseyside

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skeptics are having their 10 year

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anniversary we speak to Alice howarth

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and Laurie Phillips and see what they've

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got cooked up lined up in the pipeline

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for their 10 year anniversary also this

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Australian TV decades ago

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for skeptics in the pub and chats to

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pubs and ask the big question should

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Australian skeptics carry on with our

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active anymore

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however the Australian skeptics still

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have an upfront offer of $100,000 and we

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get the opinion of pub goers is this a

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good thing or is it dated more

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announcements from me at the end of the

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show but now it's time for me to run

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downstairs being careful not to wake up

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the sleeping cat behind me no hear any I

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and joining me now on the line all the

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howarth and Laurie Phillips hello hi

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know a certain mutual friend of ours

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there's no QED this year so and we

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it's going to be a fantastic event

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speakers yes we're gonna be MC by day

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do all sorts of do our evening

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entertainment and so we've got our very

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first speaker ever MSS was Chris French

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of his laptop when he gives a talk it's

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journalism so he's always got a great

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of the the most well attended talks

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potentially HIV and but we'll see we'll

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see I'll come to a decision see yeah and

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how accept good thinking up and then uh

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to announce yes yes so we've still got a

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few little things to announce for the

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day on this Saturday's it's gonna be a

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packed day on the Saturday and I'm gonna

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have that even entertainment from Dave

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great entertainer and so it's gonna be a

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great event and then we have the

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following day every year at most I

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family-friendly event and where we can

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picnics so it's a great event so if

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pound for ticket wow what a lineup folks

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on that Saturday July the 6th at the

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liner hotel and it's only twenty nine

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that for yourself I will add a link to

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the show notes or Alice if people just

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where can they go our website is may

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decide skeptics dog you can find loads

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of stuff that we're up to there so we

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a que which some of your listeners might

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already know and then Marsh hosts be

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reasonable which is a fantastic monthly

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he interviews somebody with views

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outside of the mainstream and then we

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have a an occasional podcast incredulous

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a panel show that doesn't quite air

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quite as often as we'd like but it is a

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very fun podcast and all of that's on

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the place to head to folks I can

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certainly recommend those podcasts and

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get a quite an interesting experience

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every month when I listen to be

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really does it's a great podcast

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nevertheless well Alice and Laurie thank

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you very much for letting us know about

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the one-day event coming up I wish I

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could be there I'm sure it will be a

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great success but for now thank you very

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Brisbane skeptics society 2019 skeptic

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now as many of you know I love the good

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old-fashioned skepticism

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I'm known over the term ears people like

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me are called Bigfoot skeptics other

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than these are people who love the good

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old-fashioned stuff the ESP the monsters

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the obvious monster for example Bigfoot

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now is yetis telekinesis reading minds

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talking to the dead that sort of thing

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that's where my heart lies in the

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skeptical realms we have very important

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issues of course like climate change

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denial and vaccination anti vaccination

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people and I think the record shows I

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have a very strong track record of

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activism when it comes to particularly

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the anti vaccination crowd but yes my

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heart lies in the old-fashioned stuff

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and one of those topics is astrology

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good old astrology which comes and goes

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it's not as much in vogue anymore as it

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used to be but still millions of people

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around the world firmly believe that the

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position of the stars and planets will

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affect your character and the outcoming

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of the events and so on and so forth and

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recently I've been reminded of something

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that happened way back in the presidency

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of Ronald Reagan where there was a

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period of time where Nancy Reagan was

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influenced by the advice and opinions of

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her astrologer by the name of Joan

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Quigley now Joan Quigley out in 2014

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aged 87 but for a period of time during

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the Reagan presidency she was certainly

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in the news and an article appeared very

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recently in the Washington Post and I

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must think listener Gary Goldberg for

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helping me with this part of the story

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this is an opinion piece written by Ron

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Reagan

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strong points so I'll just read that

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article to you now this comes to us from

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the Washington Post on Sunday the 28th

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of April 2019 by Ron Reagan Ron Reagan

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is a writer and political commentator

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living in Seattle and Tuscany astrology

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in 1981 having scarcely begun his

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presidency my father was shot in the

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street by a young man trying to impress

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a famous actress my mother inside out

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with worry and feeling helpless to

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prevent such things from happening again

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fell prey to an astrologer who promised

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to warn of any particularly inauspicious

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days for my father to leave the house

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this arrangement had little influence on

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his presidential schedule but produced

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considerable embarrassment when it was

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revealed sometime later my mother was

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foolish of course but given the

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stressful circumstances I'm inclined to

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forgive I'm less charitably inclined

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towards the charlatan who took advantage

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of her anxious or not it's past time we

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abandoned astrology such

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pseudo-scientific piffle is it best

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harmless folly at worst it belongs to a

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family of more pernicious intellectual

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lapses with serious consequences climate

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change denial creationism the notion

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that we can install a reckless

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incompetent in the Oval Office without

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inviting disaster let's consider

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astrology and knock us as it may seem as

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a kind of gateway drug it softens the

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mental ground for equally unsound but

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far more harmful ideas if you believe in

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the Stars

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you can believe anything astrology which

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seems to be enjoying a renaissance among

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Millennials and Gen X's is only one sad

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example of our flabby minded post truth

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era a disturbing number of people are

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foregoing vaccinations for their kids

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or getting their news from assorted

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crackpots and hustlers on social media

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reasoning is a hallmark of our species

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but we're forgetting how to do it

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magical thinking is a bad habit we need

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to break we are not owned by our own

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reality Nature doesn't care about

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politics Jupiter doesn't determine your

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character you do if you want to be

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influenced by the Stars by a telescope

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and that was by Ron Reagan published in

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The Washington Post on the 28th of April

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2019 but it prompted me to do a little

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bit of digging and research and I found

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some interesting snippets audio and

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video snippets online from John Quigley

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talking about her time advising Nancy

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and Ronald Reagan and here is some of

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what she had to say I timed all the

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press conferences i time most of the

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speeches I timed when he would take Air

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Force front one when he would take off

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and when he would land I did a chart for

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Anthony Kennedy to to nominate him as a

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justice for the Supreme Court it was an

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almost impossible day to find a really

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good time it had to be so exact to the

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second and someone was sitting in the

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audience with a stopwatch and gave a

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signal for the President to announce

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that he was nominating Anthony Kennedy

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for the Supreme Court today announcing

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my intention they nominate the United

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States Circuit Judge Anthony Kennedy to

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be an Associate Justice of the Supreme

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Court they wanted to announce that

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ronnie was running for a second term in

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early December of 1983 and I said no

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then it wouldn't work well I think it

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wrong and I delayed it till the last

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Sunday in January of 1984 justice

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I found a wonderful chart which was just

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five minutes before the noon I am

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therefore announcing that I am a

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candidate and will seek re-election she

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was not only interested in the president

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safety and having me do for him the

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things that I'd done during the ad

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campaign but she was also interested in

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improving her own image and I was very

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occupied with that at first I picked a

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time on the day they left that was an

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excellent time for what I what we wanted

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to accomplish and I also changed their

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evil empire altitude by briefing them on

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Gorbachev's horoscope by the time we

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were working on the Washington summit

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she was calling me two and three times a

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day so according to her she had quite an

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influence determining the time of major

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events for the Reagan's when they would

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go on overseas trips when this would

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happen when that would happen when the

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best time to make a political

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appointment was and I also came across

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this very short clip of Nancy and Ronald

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Reagan and I think it shows in that

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instance anyway that Nancy Reagan was

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prone to superstitions and magical

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thinking I also came across in my

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archive something I think I've mentioned

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or played before on the skeptic zone

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over the years and this is from 1992 an

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australian chat show audience

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participation show called Couchman which

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was popular at the time where he would

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basically bring in two camps of opposing

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views and discuss the issue and the

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topic of one of those episodes was

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astrology I thought I'd play you're

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shocked that the voices you will hear

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are in Bryce from the Australian

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skeptics astrologer ray Webb and I can't

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see anything recently on ray Webb

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although this was a very long time ago

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and the late great Barry Williams from

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the Australian skeptics as well let's

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get down to tin tacks here because

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there's this one very basic question

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that I'd really like to hear your

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discuss and that is why should the

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position of the planets have any

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influence on how we turned out to be on

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our personalities on our characters even

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the choice of occupation that we might

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make what might happen in our lives why

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should that be can anyone explain that

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for me in 10 can anyone explain that for

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me in 10 seconds the answer to that's

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very simple Peter the forces that govern

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the universe are quite well known and

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they have been for about half a century

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and they the forces do not account for

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any of those interactions the planets do

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not affect our personalities and the

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well right can you can you explain for

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it simply how the position of the

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planets at the time of our birth might

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in any way affect what sort of people we

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are well Peter I think that first of all

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the purpose of astrology is not to

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foretell the future

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no to do what you people keep blaming we

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don't we don't just listen to an

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astrologer for 30 sec yeah okay just

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explain for us why the position of the

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planets should in any way influence our

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personalities the position of the

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planets when they're talking about the

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the solar system the most important

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thing in the solar system is the Sun you

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switch off that Sun you've got a heap of

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rocks having said that there are four

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major seasons summer autumn winter

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spring

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will not grow in the summer I won't for

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you it goes well well no I think I think

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I think it is accepted by certainly

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people who were who grow things all you

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have landed are influenced by the moon

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just a little further we are part of all

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we have met Arthur Bowman will tell you

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that every time in the universe is

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putting its tent impeccably and forever

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on every part of that universe that

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started at that moment including pizza a

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winter child is like a winter flower a

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summer child is like a summer flower we

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are different I take a step I'm

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different to the person who has one step

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behind me and different again to the

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person on either side of me the faith

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that makes astrology work best is free

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will free will because you can have

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50,000 people born at the same instant

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under the same planetary influences and

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they exercise engaño

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make fifty thousand individual different

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decisions and each one of them can be

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right for you yes but hold on a minute

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does that mean that all those people who

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were born at the same minute that I was

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also all those things that I am you know

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on the bad days malicious pessimistic

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and selfish way well it's your call

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twins like a person born on the in the

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same hospital around about the same time

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as you would have a similar experience

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or life pattern but did that mean by by

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00:25:55,700 --> 00:25:54,640
by that definition the greys just given

547
00:25:59,220 --> 00:25:55,710
us we should be almost identical

548
00:26:01,799 --> 00:25:59,230
personalities because we're taking into

549
00:26:04,620 --> 00:26:01,809
account the genetic processes that

550
00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:04,630
arrive from the two family lines that a

551
00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:07,210
conception then meet and that individual

552
00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:08,650
is obviously going to display all of

553
00:26:12,750 --> 00:26:10,690
those genetic processes and is the

554
00:26:14,790 --> 00:26:12,760
environmental influences acting on those

555
00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:14,800
genetic processes which is going to make

556
00:26:19,380 --> 00:26:17,890
that person what they are saying is

557
00:26:22,540 --> 00:26:19,390
cop-out from what they're claiming I

558
00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:24,860
can't the skeptics have a sale aren't we

559
00:26:36,230 --> 00:26:33,210
alone isn't denying the whole basis of

560
00:26:37,580 --> 00:26:36,240
your line of rubbish about okay wait a

561
00:26:43,550 --> 00:26:37,590
minute go down here Barry Maggie was

562
00:26:53,510 --> 00:26:43,560
denying all these influences like that

563
00:26:55,220 --> 00:26:53,520
all right I can fall over Barry what are

564
00:26:57,140 --> 00:26:55,230
you going to say look the point is I

565
00:26:58,850 --> 00:26:57,150
make a statement about this influence

566
00:27:00,260 --> 00:26:58,860
they have and then the for the rest of

567
00:27:02,300 --> 00:27:00,270
the five minutes they've been talking

568
00:27:03,860 --> 00:27:02,310
I've been giving you the apps from it so

569
00:27:05,360 --> 00:27:03,870
that when it doesn't work for you well

570
00:27:06,380 --> 00:27:05,370
it might be a genetic influence or it

571
00:27:08,990 --> 00:27:06,390
might be a free will or it might be

572
00:27:11,120 --> 00:27:09,000
anything else I mean yes I'm in great

573
00:27:13,370 --> 00:27:11,130
agreeing with you about three well why

574
00:27:16,790 --> 00:27:13,380
do you have to then overlay your free

575
00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:16,800
will with this absolute crime hold on

576
00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:18,210
hold on a thing I'll break this off you

577
00:27:22,130 --> 00:27:19,530
know I've got to break this up here hold

578
00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:22,140
on just at the beginning now I think

579
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:25,410
Barry may have been a little a little

580
00:27:29,300 --> 00:27:26,730
their fourth right there and his

581
00:27:30,980 --> 00:27:29,310
opinions but it was interesting to try

582
00:27:35,360 --> 00:27:30,990
and make sense out of the convoluted

583
00:27:37,100 --> 00:27:35,370
logic of the astrologer now it seems to

584
00:27:38,660 --> 00:27:37,110
me that many people still enjoy reading

585
00:27:40,340 --> 00:27:38,670
their horoscopes in the newspapers every

586
00:27:43,250 --> 00:27:40,350
day or their favorite magazine and

587
00:27:45,770 --> 00:27:43,260
that's all very very much

588
00:27:47,860 --> 00:27:45,780
silly fun and I don't I don't

589
00:27:51,770 --> 00:27:47,870
particularly think that's of any

590
00:27:53,780 --> 00:27:51,780
detriment but there are again many

591
00:27:55,610 --> 00:27:53,790
people who take it very seriously who

592
00:27:58,250 --> 00:27:55,620
spend a lot of money seeing astrologers

593
00:28:00,220 --> 00:27:58,260
and take advice based on the mystical

594
00:28:09,850 --> 00:28:00,230
movements of the stars

595
00:28:13,190 --> 00:28:09,860
[Music]

596
00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:13,200
allora ciao mi chiamo profesora de vo

597
00:28:19,550 --> 00:28:15,570
tuvalu incendiary - teleca's solutions

598
00:28:23,890 --> 00:28:19,560
para la moda physica de chemica Volodya

599
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:23,900
astronomia Mathematica atonte ultra cosy

600
00:28:29,060 --> 00:28:27,210
guarda missile youtube arrivederci

601
00:28:30,770 --> 00:28:29,070
hey everyone this is Professor Dave I

602
00:28:32,510 --> 00:28:30,780
want to teach you about all kinds of

603
00:28:34,460 --> 00:28:32,520
things regarding science I want to tell

604
00:28:37,850 --> 00:28:34,470
you about physics I want to tell you

605
00:28:40,580 --> 00:28:37,860
about chemistry biology astronomy math

606
00:28:42,260 --> 00:28:40,590
and many many more things come check me

607
00:28:48,220 --> 00:28:42,270
out on youtube the channel is called

608
00:28:48,230 --> 00:28:53,160
[Applause]

609
00:28:53,170 --> 00:29:01,450
[Music]

610
00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:03,380
well it might be skeptics in the pub

611
00:29:07,669 --> 00:29:05,370
here in Sydney first Thursday of the

612
00:29:09,919 --> 00:29:07,679
month of the Occidental hotel but I'm

613
00:29:11,330 --> 00:29:09,929
with Jessica Singh a longtime committee

614
00:29:12,980 --> 00:29:11,340
member of the Australian skeptics here

615
00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:12,990
in New South Wales you've recently come

616
00:29:20,180 --> 00:29:16,530
back from a trip to the UK that's right

617
00:29:23,630 --> 00:29:20,190
I was in London and unfortunately it

618
00:29:26,210 --> 00:29:23,640
meant that I had to miss the last Sydney

619
00:29:28,130 --> 00:29:26,220
skeptics in the pub I did mean that I

620
00:29:30,710 --> 00:29:28,140
could go to the London skeptics in the

621
00:29:33,799 --> 00:29:30,720
pub now this is one of the oldest oi I

622
00:29:36,020 --> 00:29:33,809
think the oldest skeptics in the pub it

623
00:29:37,940 --> 00:29:36,030
was the whole idea was started by an

624
00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:37,950
Australian wasn't it an Australian dr.

625
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:40,290
Scott Campbell who used to be on the

626
00:29:45,230 --> 00:29:42,650
Australian skeptics Inc committee and

627
00:29:48,260 --> 00:29:45,240
for professional reasons moved to the UK

628
00:29:50,870 --> 00:29:48,270
and started skeptics in the pub over

629
00:29:53,590 --> 00:29:50,880
there I think inspired by the politics

630
00:29:58,039 --> 00:29:53,600
and the pub and science in the pub model

631
00:30:01,370 --> 00:29:58,049
so yeah he's the founder that's great

632
00:30:03,020 --> 00:30:01,380
and I one day will will remember exactly

633
00:30:06,289 --> 00:30:03,030
what year it started here in Sydney I'm

634
00:30:08,750 --> 00:30:06,299
I think it was around 2003 but somebody

635
00:30:10,669 --> 00:30:08,760
somebody somebody he'll know but anyway

636
00:30:12,890 --> 00:30:10,679
so tonight we had a great night so you

637
00:30:14,450 --> 00:30:12,900
come along people we did we had a great

638
00:30:16,460 --> 00:30:14,460
night we had a really good night where

639
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:16,470
people come along they just order a beer

640
00:30:21,110 --> 00:30:18,210
a drink of their choice have a bit of

641
00:30:23,659 --> 00:30:21,120
dinner chat and then we have a speaker

642
00:30:26,210 --> 00:30:23,669
every month on varying scientists

643
00:30:28,370 --> 00:30:26,220
science topics tonight was all about rip

644
00:30:32,090 --> 00:30:28,380
currents at the beach that's right and

645
00:30:37,100 --> 00:30:32,100
the speaker was dr. Robert Brenda from

646
00:30:39,830 --> 00:30:37,110
UNSW and he researches rip currents it

647
00:30:43,930 --> 00:30:39,840
was his the subject of his PhD and he's

648
00:30:48,289 --> 00:30:43,940
done a lot of work come to overturn the

649
00:30:50,990 --> 00:30:48,299
accepted knowledge on models of rip

650
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:51,000
currents and apparently they're far more

651
00:30:55,340 --> 00:30:53,490
complex yes and variable than people

652
00:30:57,710 --> 00:30:55,350
believe it was it was enlightening

653
00:31:00,110 --> 00:30:57,720
tonight and it was enjoyable he was a

654
00:31:01,730 --> 00:31:00,120
great speaker so folks it's that's if

655
00:31:05,450 --> 00:31:01,740
you ever have a chance to see him talk

656
00:31:07,010 --> 00:31:05,460
yes and he does community talks

657
00:31:08,700 --> 00:31:07,020
particularly in the summer he goes up

658
00:31:10,860 --> 00:31:08,710
and down the coast and speaks it's a

659
00:31:12,810 --> 00:31:10,870
clubs talking about science of the surf

660
00:31:14,639 --> 00:31:12,820
teaching people about rips and beach

661
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:14,649
safety and how to spot a rip it's all

662
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:15,970
about science and gets back to the

663
00:31:20,070 --> 00:31:18,610
science anyway so you're very familiar

664
00:31:22,500 --> 00:31:20,080
skeptic and I'm here in Sydney you've

665
00:31:24,930 --> 00:31:22,510
been many yes and I've been coming for a

666
00:31:28,260 --> 00:31:24,940
while and it's my job to organize the

667
00:31:30,990 --> 00:31:28,270
bigger each month so yeah so it was

668
00:31:33,060 --> 00:31:31,000
actually really refreshing to be able to

669
00:31:35,730 --> 00:31:33,070
go to a skeptics in the pub and not have

670
00:31:38,159 --> 00:31:35,740
to worry about it right do anything just

671
00:31:42,740 --> 00:31:38,169
turn up it was fabulous and where was

672
00:31:46,289 --> 00:31:42,750
the venue it is at the monarch hotel in

673
00:31:48,659 --> 00:31:46,299
or the monarch pub in Camden Town mm-hm

674
00:31:53,700 --> 00:31:48,669
so it's near Camden Market which is

675
00:31:57,240 --> 00:31:53,710
great and it's a rock and roll pub so it

676
00:32:01,110 --> 00:31:57,250
has a sound system so chatting to the

677
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:01,120
organizer said Rodriguez who's Ben yes

678
00:32:05,310 --> 00:32:03,730
did old friend who's been involved in

679
00:32:08,519 --> 00:32:05,320
skeptics for years and years and years

680
00:32:11,639 --> 00:32:08,529
it was interesting that they have

681
00:32:13,980 --> 00:32:11,649
exactly the same issues that we have in

682
00:32:16,409 --> 00:32:13,990
terms of a venue finding a venue that

683
00:32:19,289 --> 00:32:16,419
will have you that serves good food that

684
00:32:22,260 --> 00:32:19,299
has a sound system so you don't have to

685
00:32:24,060 --> 00:32:22,270
bring your own sound system so when you

686
00:32:27,510 --> 00:32:24,070
Richard started skeptics in the pub in

687
00:32:31,049 --> 00:32:27,520
2003 and then it got bigger and bigger

688
00:32:36,060 --> 00:32:31,059
and bigger so so we had a decided to

689
00:32:37,409 --> 00:32:36,070
have a monthly speaker you we had a pub

690
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:37,419
which didn't have a sound system so

691
00:32:43,110 --> 00:32:39,610
through we had to bring in our own sound

692
00:32:47,639 --> 00:32:43,120
system and then we've moved venues a

693
00:32:51,090 --> 00:32:47,649
couple of times mainly or not mainly but

694
00:32:52,350 --> 00:32:51,100
a major reason was to find a venue with

695
00:32:54,690 --> 00:32:52,360
the sound system and that's how we've

696
00:32:56,399 --> 00:32:54,700
ended up at the Oriental because not

697
00:33:00,630 --> 00:32:56,409
only do they have a sound system they

698
00:33:03,810 --> 00:33:00,640
have a projector they have a screen so

699
00:33:05,900 --> 00:33:03,820
they're really really well set up for us

700
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:05,910
to have an event

701
00:33:09,770 --> 00:33:07,290
[Applause]

702
00:33:11,180 --> 00:33:09,780
with a speaker and a presentation there

703
00:33:12,740 --> 00:33:11,190
are a number of things that you must

704
00:33:14,270 --> 00:33:12,750
check off folks if you're considering

705
00:33:16,850 --> 00:33:14,280
doing your skeptics in the pub in your

706
00:33:20,420 --> 00:33:16,860
area there's a check I guess there is a

707
00:33:21,980 --> 00:33:20,430
check list it has to be accessible if

708
00:33:24,670 --> 00:33:21,990
you're in a city near public transports

709
00:33:28,730 --> 00:33:24,680
the idea a room where you can have

710
00:33:30,620 --> 00:33:28,740
privacy Oh exclusive use is really

711
00:33:33,890 --> 00:33:30,630
important that's what we've found over

712
00:33:35,630 --> 00:33:33,900
the years because we've been in venues

713
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:35,640
where we didn't have exclusive use and

714
00:33:41,390 --> 00:33:38,250
then the sound system broke down and it

715
00:33:43,190 --> 00:33:41,400
was horrendous in fact we had two on one

716
00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:43,200
awful occasion had to tell the speaker

717
00:33:49,340 --> 00:33:47,490
look just stop no you know any Hugh and

718
00:33:53,030 --> 00:33:49,350
another time we did have the sound

719
00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:53,040
system and in Bryce committee member and

720
00:33:59,240 --> 00:33:56,250
our resident rocket scientist who was

721
00:34:01,970 --> 00:33:59,250
giving a very detailed and interesting

722
00:34:03,830 --> 00:34:01,980
presentation was that one about gravity

723
00:34:05,690 --> 00:34:03,840
waves it might have been sounds really

724
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:05,700
there's something like that anyway down

725
00:34:11,990 --> 00:34:07,410
the other end of the room there was a

726
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:12,000
very raucous birthday party going on and

727
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:14,610
I think I think it was that that made us

728
00:34:19,460 --> 00:34:17,850
decide we have to find a new venue where

729
00:34:21,409 --> 00:34:19,470
we have exclusive use and a sound system

730
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:21,419
that's right it's just common courtesy

731
00:34:25,669 --> 00:34:23,610
to the speaker so they're not fighting

732
00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:25,679
with other noise or distractions in the

733
00:34:29,780 --> 00:34:28,050
room and everybody can give their full

734
00:34:31,820 --> 00:34:29,790
attention so that's what we've we have

735
00:34:34,629 --> 00:34:31,830
at the moment which is fantastic be

736
00:34:39,010 --> 00:34:34,639
getting back to London getting ready

737
00:34:43,780 --> 00:34:39,020
it's so well we just talk about us

738
00:34:46,399 --> 00:34:43,790
we do Lana was really good it was some

739
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:46,409
different of course but the same and

740
00:34:52,310 --> 00:34:48,690
that was that was nice to be able to

741
00:34:54,889 --> 00:34:52,320
walk into a room full of strangers but

742
00:34:56,899 --> 00:34:54,899
to know that we all had something in

743
00:34:59,780 --> 00:34:56,909
common which was skepticism and science

744
00:35:02,210 --> 00:34:59,790
and science communication and just be

745
00:35:04,370 --> 00:35:02,220
able to bowl up and have a meal and chat

746
00:35:06,770 --> 00:35:04,380
with people so it was you'd have a drink

747
00:35:08,660 --> 00:35:06,780
a meal just like here just like here

748
00:35:10,490 --> 00:35:08,670
interesting yeah and it's so important

749
00:35:13,330 --> 00:35:10,500
it helps the social atmosphere doesn't

750
00:35:18,220 --> 00:35:13,340
it it does it does and I met um me

751
00:35:23,890 --> 00:35:18,230
quite a few people and from America from

752
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:23,900
from Europe from the UK someone from the

753
00:35:29,110 --> 00:35:26,810
UK who lived in America now but happened

754
00:35:32,770 --> 00:35:29,120
it happens to happen happen to be back

755
00:35:34,990 --> 00:35:32,780
in London yeah we've had people coming

756
00:35:36,700 --> 00:35:35,000
through town from Hong Kong or New

757
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:36,710
Zealand they find out about it and

758
00:35:44,050 --> 00:35:39,530
they're here for a week and luckily for

759
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:44,060
them it coincides with with the skeptics

760
00:35:47,590 --> 00:35:45,770
in the pub so they can come along yeah

761
00:35:50,050 --> 00:35:47,600
you look quite a few people have come

762
00:35:52,060 --> 00:35:50,060
along that way you know is it a monthly

763
00:35:54,970 --> 00:35:52,070
event in there in London it's a monthly

764
00:35:58,270 --> 00:35:54,980
event and they like us have a meetup

765
00:36:01,420 --> 00:35:58,280
group so you can sign up to the meetup

766
00:36:05,190 --> 00:36:01,430
group and you get a very nice welcome

767
00:36:08,290 --> 00:36:05,200
message from I think it's carmina

768
00:36:12,490 --> 00:36:08,300
welcoming you to the group and saying I

769
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:12,500
hope you come along and so just like the

770
00:36:18,790 --> 00:36:15,770
Sydney skeptics meetup group you get a

771
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:18,800
little email in your mmm inbox when they

772
00:36:24,250 --> 00:36:20,930
announce a function and then you get

773
00:36:26,620 --> 00:36:24,260
reminders yeah there you are folks it's

774
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:26,630
all a good idea we've had many happy

775
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:28,610
years of skeptics in the pub in Sydney

776
00:36:33,580 --> 00:36:30,770
many speakers on all sorts of topics

777
00:36:35,380 --> 00:36:33,590
it's it's not it doesn't run itself you

778
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:35,390
have to organise it you have to put in

779
00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:37,010
some footwork and you certainly do that

780
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:39,530
yes and I was chatting with Sid about

781
00:36:45,820 --> 00:36:43,490
that and I'm quite envious of the UK

782
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:45,830
because of course with the larger

783
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:48,130
population they have a larger pool of

784
00:36:54,790 --> 00:36:51,410
potential speakers to draw upon and they

785
00:36:57,990 --> 00:36:54,800
also have a really good network via

786
00:37:02,680 --> 00:36:58,000
Facebook of skeptics in the pub

787
00:37:05,110 --> 00:37:02,690
organisers to trade ideas and ask for

788
00:37:07,510 --> 00:37:05,120
ideas as to speakers and because the

789
00:37:12,450 --> 00:37:07,520
distances are relatively short compared

790
00:37:15,220 --> 00:37:12,460
with Australia they can they can really

791
00:37:17,650 --> 00:37:15,230
leverage the groups can really leverage

792
00:37:20,140 --> 00:37:17,660
off each other when it comes to finding

793
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:20,150
speakers and getting getting speakers to

794
00:37:25,330 --> 00:37:23,090
the different groups whereas here I

795
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:25,340
suppose that's closest group is Canberra

796
00:37:28,660 --> 00:37:26,330
there

797
00:37:30,430 --> 00:37:28,670
not too far away it's not too far away

798
00:37:34,690 --> 00:37:30,440
it's not exactly close not exactly close

799
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:34,700
but Brisbane and Melbourne are the next

800
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:36,650
closest I think another tip I would give

801
00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:39,170
anybody considering it is don't don't

802
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:40,850
think you have to have a talk every

803
00:37:46,540 --> 00:37:43,970
month on skepticism absolutely not

804
00:37:50,110 --> 00:37:46,550
oh no and in fact the the speaker at

805
00:37:55,740 --> 00:37:50,120
London skeptics in the pub was a guy

806
00:37:59,290 --> 00:37:55,750
called Alex Clegg and he's the I think

807
00:38:02,440 --> 00:37:59,300
projects and communications officer from

808
00:38:04,540 --> 00:38:02,450
sense about science oh yeah now sense

809
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:04,550
about science that's the UK charity

810
00:38:11,590 --> 00:38:07,490
which was founded in 2002 to promote the

811
00:38:14,500 --> 00:38:11,600
public understanding of science and Alex

812
00:38:18,850 --> 00:38:14,510
was talking about their latest public

813
00:38:21,490 --> 00:38:18,860
campaign which is a an online tool to

814
00:38:24,010 --> 00:38:21,500
encourage and assist people to request

815
00:38:26,410 --> 00:38:24,020
evidence for any claims they encounter

816
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:26,420
so if you read an article or you hear

817
00:38:31,870 --> 00:38:28,850
something on the radio or you meet

818
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:31,880
someone and they have a claim like this

819
00:38:38,770 --> 00:38:35,330
cures cancer hmm you can then use the

820
00:38:41,620 --> 00:38:38,780
sense about science online tool to send

821
00:38:44,590 --> 00:38:41,630
a query what's the evidence please give

822
00:38:46,060 --> 00:38:44,600
us your evidence so um that was a really

823
00:38:49,030 --> 00:38:46,070
interesting talk and it sounds like a

824
00:38:51,490 --> 00:38:49,040
great tool so there'd be no it's a great

825
00:38:53,110 --> 00:38:51,500
example and if in fact if you had a

826
00:38:54,730 --> 00:38:53,120
sceptical topic every month I think

827
00:38:56,620 --> 00:38:54,740
people and you'd run out of topics I

828
00:38:58,420 --> 00:38:56,630
guess I don't get a bit sick of it but

829
00:39:00,370 --> 00:38:58,430
people love to hear about frogs and rip

830
00:39:03,010 --> 00:39:00,380
currents and all sorts of other science

831
00:39:05,050 --> 00:39:03,020
space space whenever we have a Spacey

832
00:39:07,300 --> 00:39:05,060
topic or an astronomy topic that's

833
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:07,310
always really popular yeah well thanks

834
00:39:10,660 --> 00:39:08,810
for Jessica for chatting to us about

835
00:39:13,030 --> 00:39:10,670
your experience with skeptics in the pub

836
00:39:15,370 --> 00:39:13,040
in London and I know it there are

837
00:39:17,650 --> 00:39:15,380
skeptics in the pub or there is a pub

838
00:39:19,390 --> 00:39:17,660
all around the world if there's not one

839
00:39:24,110 --> 00:39:19,400
in your local area it might be worth

840
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:41,080
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843
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844
00:40:04,190 --> 00:40:01,070
deniers exposed is ideological zealots

845
00:40:04,970 --> 00:40:04,200
celebrity psychics have been caught

846
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red-handed

847
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using trickery flat earthers seriously

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849
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skeptics must seize this moment as Miss

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pseudoscience conspiracy theories and

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865
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884
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here's may not spooky action at a

885
00:42:25,270 --> 00:42:23,410
I'm just sitting next to a Tim Mendham

886
00:42:28,420 --> 00:42:25,280
which is the he's at the pointy end of

887
00:42:30,460 --> 00:42:28,430
the $100,000 challenge here and look

888
00:42:32,380 --> 00:42:30,470
Saunders causes a trouble maker has

889
00:42:33,790 --> 00:42:32,390
asked me to ask people do you think they

890
00:42:35,050 --> 00:42:33,800
should just give this whole thing away

891
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:35,060
do you think the challenge should be

892
00:42:39,460 --> 00:42:36,290
given away because you're the guy who

893
00:42:40,870 --> 00:42:39,470
takes the phone calls no I mean the

894
00:42:42,130 --> 00:42:40,880
money given away or the whole concept of

895
00:42:44,650 --> 00:42:42,140
the challenge yeah the whole concept the

896
00:42:47,230 --> 00:42:44,660
chart I get I get messages at least once

897
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:47,240
a week from someone somewhere who's

898
00:42:52,450 --> 00:42:50,210
applying for the challenge so people are

899
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:52,460
very very keen on it actually once they

900
00:42:58,180 --> 00:42:54,610
find out they actually have to do a test

901
00:43:01,870 --> 00:42:58,190
rather just oh yeah I say I can fly oh

902
00:43:04,900 --> 00:43:01,880
here's the money right 90% of them drop

903
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:04,910
there and that's stage okay what they

904
00:43:09,940 --> 00:43:06,530
think they can just go I can fly and

905
00:43:11,470 --> 00:43:09,950
here's your cash I've had people do

906
00:43:13,780 --> 00:43:11,480
exactly that actually I've also people

907
00:43:15,460 --> 00:43:13,790
get very aggressive when I say no you

908
00:43:17,380 --> 00:43:15,470
can't get the money until you get proven

909
00:43:20,140 --> 00:43:17,390
is if I made the money now I can someone

910
00:43:21,340 --> 00:43:20,150
be really really nasty to me and I think

911
00:43:23,170 --> 00:43:21,350
well there's no chance you're gonna get

912
00:43:24,490 --> 00:43:23,180
the money mate what's the weirdest one

913
00:43:26,940 --> 00:43:24,500
you've had what's the weirdest claim

914
00:43:29,730 --> 00:43:26,950
you've had that's never gone any further

915
00:43:32,710 --> 00:43:29,740
we disclaimer there's a lot of them

916
00:43:36,460 --> 00:43:32,720
there was a fellow who was covered in

917
00:43:36,940 --> 00:43:36,470
UFO dust I'm sorry he's covered in UFO

918
00:43:39,550 --> 00:43:36,950
dust

919
00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:39,560
yeah he was first of all he was first of

920
00:43:44,650 --> 00:43:42,170
all claiming that he could see dark

921
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:44,660
matter which was basically the shadows

922
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:47,930
of contrails on clouds and that was

923
00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:49,850
darkness it runs parallel with the plane

924
00:43:54,370 --> 00:43:53,090
I said yeah it's a shadow right and then

925
00:43:58,030 --> 00:43:54,380
he came down with something else he said

926
00:44:00,310 --> 00:43:58,040
I filmed UFOs he sent me videos which I

927
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:00,320
then had to follow through ever trying

928
00:44:04,420 --> 00:44:02,330
to a frame by frame of a video online

929
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:04,430
it's a bit difficult right because he

930
00:44:07,870 --> 00:44:06,170
havea third press here pause button all

931
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:07,880
the time and I finally found what he was

932
00:44:13,630 --> 00:44:10,930
talking about it was a spot on one frame

933
00:44:16,870 --> 00:44:13,640
how good are you at being polite

934
00:44:19,180 --> 00:44:16,880
so go ring-ring ring-ring I'm very

935
00:44:22,240 --> 00:44:19,190
polite okay I've got a claim that's

936
00:44:24,730 --> 00:44:22,250
amazing thank you what is your claim I

937
00:44:28,570 --> 00:44:24,740
believe that I look good in this suit

938
00:44:30,370 --> 00:44:28,580
you're an idiot aren't you is that

939
00:44:31,690 --> 00:44:30,380
require extraordinary evidence or not I

940
00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:31,700
think so if you have photographic

941
00:44:35,740 --> 00:44:34,130
evidence of this yes it's not good but

942
00:44:36,850 --> 00:44:35,750
okay well I'm afraid yeah I've looked at

943
00:44:38,890 --> 00:44:36,860
the photographs they're not very good

944
00:44:40,750 --> 00:44:38,900
quality they are a bit fuzzy and arrive

945
00:44:43,240 --> 00:44:40,760
and looks like something moving is that

946
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:43,250
you and then you make a noise it sounds

947
00:44:47,740 --> 00:44:46,370
like boo and your hang-up I've been

948
00:44:49,330 --> 00:44:47,750
asking people tonight should this get

949
00:44:50,740 --> 00:44:49,340
big speed bother doing the hundred

950
00:44:52,150 --> 00:44:50,750
thousand dollar thing because it hasn't

951
00:44:54,850 --> 00:44:52,160
really gone off but what do you think

952
00:44:57,610 --> 00:44:54,860
well I like it when we have

953
00:45:01,900 --> 00:44:57,620
conversations with people who think that

954
00:45:04,300 --> 00:45:01,910
you know they can divine for water or or

955
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:04,310
see ghosts so it's handy to be able to

956
00:45:07,930 --> 00:45:06,770
say well give the skipping it's a call

957
00:45:10,510 --> 00:45:07,940
they'll give you a hundred thousand

958
00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:10,520
bucks and they never do do they III

959
00:45:15,850 --> 00:45:12,650
don't know luckily I'm insulated from

960
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:15,860
whether or not they do but I mean I

961
00:45:20,530 --> 00:45:17,210
guess I'm not doing any other work

962
00:45:23,710 --> 00:45:20,540
related to it I've been asking about the

963
00:45:26,050 --> 00:45:23,720
whole hundred thousand dollar thing and

964
00:45:27,150 --> 00:45:26,060
should it still keep going or do you

965
00:45:30,460 --> 00:45:27,160
think it's just a bit of a wacky

966
00:45:35,790 --> 00:45:30,470
hangover from back in the days so my

967
00:45:38,530 --> 00:45:35,800
opinions on this I think very strong I

968
00:45:41,340 --> 00:45:38,540
do have opinions and I like to share

969
00:45:43,650 --> 00:45:41,350
them often on this podcast

970
00:45:46,770 --> 00:45:43,660
so my opinion of the $100,000 challenge

971
00:45:48,530 --> 00:45:46,780
is I think it's good a good marketing

972
00:45:51,330 --> 00:45:48,540
tool I think it's a good way of

973
00:45:54,090 --> 00:45:51,340
introducing ourselves to people that

974
00:45:55,350 --> 00:45:54,100
wouldn't otherwise be aware it's a good

975
00:45:56,850 --> 00:45:55,360
little marketing tool around the pub

976
00:45:58,740 --> 00:45:56,860
because obviously you know Richard

977
00:46:00,270 --> 00:45:58,750
distributes the little checks around the

978
00:46:02,820 --> 00:46:00,280
pub which is a good talking point with a

979
00:46:05,370 --> 00:46:02,830
lot of people my main issue with

980
00:46:06,990 --> 00:46:05,380
$100,000 times is that I've noticed that

981
00:46:09,720 --> 00:46:07,000
in recent years especially a lot of the

982
00:46:10,940 --> 00:46:09,730
applicants you know - their challenge

983
00:46:13,350 --> 00:46:10,950
[Music]

984
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:13,360
well shall we say they're not of the

985
00:46:17,820 --> 00:46:15,010
type of people that we'd really want to

986
00:46:19,500 --> 00:46:17,830
be making a funnel and that is

987
00:46:21,780 --> 00:46:19,510
essentially what we're doing in the

988
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:21,790
challenge itself is it's a bit of which

989
00:46:25,590 --> 00:46:23,770
is kind of why we have to amend them on

990
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:25,600
the phone and not you who should be

991
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:29,170
going off shake up please I'm sorry go

992
00:46:32,610 --> 00:46:31,330
away yeah well I wouldn't say it to them

993
00:46:36,180 --> 00:46:32,620
no I'd like to think I'm a bit more

994
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:36,190
tactful than that but but I do think

995
00:46:40,500 --> 00:46:37,930
that a lot of the times people that

996
00:46:43,260 --> 00:46:40,510
contact us claiming these powers are

997
00:46:45,570 --> 00:46:43,270
maybe themselves in need of some help

998
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:45,580
and some attention I don't think that

999
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:46,930
this is the kind of attention or help

1000
00:46:51,780 --> 00:46:49,810
that they actually do require fair

1001
00:46:54,150 --> 00:46:51,790
enough well I have a claim I claim that

1002
00:46:57,660 --> 00:46:54,160
in this suit and this shirt and this tie

1003
00:46:59,640 --> 00:46:57,670
I look as good as some mid-range 90s

1004
00:47:01,080 --> 00:46:59,650
band that was moderately successful in

1005
00:47:06,210 --> 00:47:01,090
the UK you could definitely be in

1006
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:06,220
Kraftwerk look what do you think about

1007
00:47:13,620 --> 00:47:10,050
the $100,000 challenge I think it's

1008
00:47:15,660 --> 00:47:13,630
great I hope someone wins at CERN Wow

1009
00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:15,670
it's been too long well I'm pretty close

1010
00:47:19,410 --> 00:47:17,410
with the suit I'm making a claim about

1011
00:47:22,420 --> 00:47:19,420
this suit it is it is quite

1012
00:47:25,450 --> 00:47:22,430
supernaturally appealing

1013
00:47:26,470 --> 00:47:25,460
okay but look we're talking about if

1014
00:47:29,500 --> 00:47:26,480
these skeptics have their hammer

1015
00:47:31,029 --> 00:47:29,510
$100,000 thing that goes off should they

1016
00:47:32,289 --> 00:47:31,039
keep doing that or should they just give

1017
00:47:34,240 --> 00:47:32,299
it up as a bit of a joke and give it a

1018
00:47:39,730 --> 00:47:34,250
rest no they should keep doing that

1019
00:47:43,150 --> 00:47:39,740
because I feel like once it's kind of

1020
00:47:44,650 --> 00:47:43,160
quit then people have got they can they

1021
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:44,660
can sit back and just make all sorts of

1022
00:47:50,529 --> 00:47:48,170
excuses as to why nobody got it without

1023
00:47:52,599 --> 00:47:50,539
like we need to be able to trust that in

1024
00:47:54,099 --> 00:47:52,609
their face and say well if you can do

1025
00:47:55,660 --> 00:47:54,109
what you say you do then why don't you

1026
00:47:58,900 --> 00:47:55,670
do this whereas if we don't have it

1027
00:48:00,160 --> 00:47:58,910
there then become what's wrong you think

1028
00:48:03,370 --> 00:48:00,170
that's the most ridiculous that people

1029
00:48:05,260 --> 00:48:03,380
bring out the people have tried oh gosh

1030
00:48:06,519 --> 00:48:05,270
I really don't know may not I'm not

1031
00:48:08,620 --> 00:48:06,529
entirely sure I know there's been a lot

1032
00:48:11,140 --> 00:48:08,630
of them dowsers and I always feel like

1033
00:48:13,180 --> 00:48:11,150
I'm calling with the dowsing rods

1034
00:48:14,500 --> 00:48:13,190
there's another name look I'm making a

1035
00:48:17,019 --> 00:48:14,510
claim here in this suit

1036
00:48:19,420 --> 00:48:17,029
that I look like some mid-level UK band

1037
00:48:21,190 --> 00:48:19,430
from the mid 90s I think it has to be a

1038
00:48:23,470 --> 00:48:21,200
pseudo-scientific claim to make

1039
00:48:28,029 --> 00:48:23,480
paranormal so are you saying fashion

1040
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:28,039
isn't science no I'm saying you're

1041
00:48:31,559 --> 00:48:28,490
saying

1042
00:48:33,940 --> 00:48:31,569
fashion isn't science yeah I'm confused

1043
00:48:36,039 --> 00:48:33,950
I'm saying that the claim has to be

1044
00:48:37,900 --> 00:48:36,049
pseudo scientific oh we're having to

1045
00:48:40,359 --> 00:48:37,910
prove so what is your pseudo scientific

1046
00:48:45,059 --> 00:48:40,369
claim about fashion that I look a bit

1047
00:48:51,789 --> 00:48:49,569
okay so $100,000 you just got at work

1048
00:48:54,549 --> 00:48:51,799
speak to Richard and you can plan a

1049
00:48:56,260 --> 00:48:54,559
trial together and work out how you're

1050
00:48:59,000 --> 00:48:56,270
gonna prove it

1051
00:49:00,349 --> 00:48:59,010
look rich it does look like a band from

1052
00:49:02,770 --> 00:49:00,359
the 70s I just don't know which one

1053
00:49:07,010 --> 00:49:02,780
Earth Wind and Fire

1054
00:49:08,180 --> 00:49:07,020
if only retreat is a bit and don't take

1055
00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:08,190
this the wrong way Richard but you're a

1056
00:49:18,349 --> 00:49:15,410
bit like the no David Essex's manager no

1057
00:49:20,930 --> 00:49:18,359
that Len is cool well think about four

1058
00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:20,940
opinion and obviously what I've worn has

1059
00:49:27,829 --> 00:49:24,450
had no effect on it was ever even the

1060
00:49:29,720 --> 00:49:27,839
question may not it was my claim I was

1061
00:49:32,210 --> 00:49:29,730
making that claim you look very smooth

1062
00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:32,220
tonight thank you oh and by the way

1063
00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:35,010
Trish said if if you had a nice night

1064
00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:37,650
with someone and you want to indicate to

1065
00:49:41,240 --> 00:49:39,210
them that it was a nice night but you

1066
00:49:44,059 --> 00:49:41,250
might not want to see them again what's

1067
00:49:44,510 --> 00:49:44,069
the language would you use Trish will

1068
00:49:51,770 --> 00:49:44,520
you explain

1069
00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:51,780
oh that was an experience a little bit

1070
00:49:55,549 --> 00:49:53,130
vague that they could interpret

1071
00:50:10,870 --> 00:49:55,559
different way so people if you hear that

1072
00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:20,489
[Music]

1073
00:50:24,699 --> 00:50:22,930
thanks for listening to the skeptic zone

1074
00:50:27,459 --> 00:50:24,709
now here's an announcement from our

1075
00:50:29,109 --> 00:50:27,469
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1076
00:50:31,449 --> 00:50:29,119
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1077
00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:31,459
December in Melbourne this year and

1078
00:50:36,339 --> 00:50:33,650
they've just announced that Susan garvik

1079
00:50:38,380 --> 00:50:36,349
from guerrilla skepticism on Wikipedia

1080
00:50:40,089 --> 00:50:38,390
and a frequent guest on the skeptics own

1081
00:50:43,329 --> 00:50:40,099
will be attending this year's convention

1082
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in Melbourne for more information head

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to skeptic on org dot au and it will be

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great to see Susan go back back in

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Australia coming up on next week's show

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the report from the flu vaccination day

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we had yesterday on Star Wars day here

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in Sydney and the force was certainly

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with us we look at a new web series

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called fact underscore me underscore Oz

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and hopefully we have a new report

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coming up from Michelle Franklin up in

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the Northern Territory but for this week

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in thanking everybody for helping us

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reach show number 550 this is Richard

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Saunders signing off from Sydney

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Australia you've been listening to the

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necessarily those of Australian skeptics

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or any other sceptical organisation

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show new goals are Dyson's they give me

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the hellos people who stay after the

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closing music yes once again it's the

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losers they've got they've got nothing

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going on their life except to listen to

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the end of the skeptic zone the whole

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bunch of stuff for you but listening to

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but know you're listening to the end of

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the show and there's not even any cats

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and dogs not necessarily now as long

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term listeners know we play the dice

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game and new listeners every now and

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then we roll a 10 sided die three times

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and you have to use your home are you in

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the car you commuting have to use your

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psychic power to predict what numbers

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gonna come up and we've got a special

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guest tonight you are my name is Larry

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and you're going to play along you see

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so in a moment Jessica's gonna roll out

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to inside a dive and you have to use

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your magical predicting power right

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predicting look into the future what

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number do you predict it'll be zero to

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denial which is really one to ten but

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anyway okay so the answer is not 42 no

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okay do I have to say you know just

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think it well you can think it but it's

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more fun if you suck in five and here we

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come left the wave form here it comes

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Jessica's rolling now and it was five

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I'm scrupulously honest okay that was

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the first girl gonna do it two more

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times oh so think again what do you get

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500 just for change oh no six

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oh so close I know a little bit psychic

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all right I'm the last time just get

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ready oh six weeks ago I went off that's